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Clearly, its been too long since you've spent some quality time with Kamil. Its hard to beleive I'm suggesting that he's a good influence, but after reading this post, I think its true.

And the all important third data point:
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wi...

I'm unclear Mike, are you saying Kamil has a strong opinion on the appropriateness of using the term "tar baby"?

I remember one member of the Forest Lake extemp line up who used to use a tar baby introduction. I guess that would now result in being rode out on a rail. Although I can wax prosaic about the anti-Semitic roots of the word "shyster" and cringe when I hear the word "gypped," I never knew, until the Tony Snow debacle, that "tar baby" was offensive in origin. It's not that shocking, though, and objections to the use of the term seem a lot more reasonable than when people got upset about the use of the word niggardly. Not that I would EVER use that word at work. Especially not where *I* work. :)

Its worse than I thought if you can't guess Kamil's feelings on politically correct language choice.
Now, if I can only come up with a way to force you back to Chicago more often...

http://www.ca8.uscourts.gov...

Okay, setting aside the failure of the 8th Circuit to put any meaningful force behind Title VII, see page three. Kyle, you are *SO* getting deported to Canada.

The only "tar baby" I have ever know was the comically used to be derogitory. I mean "tar baby" is such a funny word to funny to be derogitory in its nature. "Nigger" is bad it has that harsh "grrr" at the end that the "Krauts" seem fond enough of to sprinkle it through out thier god awful language. Being a "relativly fresh of the boat Pollock" who grew up in low income housing filled with "Spics, Reds, and Jigaboos" I realized that racial words can only hurt you if they are etched on a rock. It seems like the "Cracker" middle class families who raise their kids in white suburban communities are especially sensative to words but kids growing up in urban or low income settings tend not to be so tortured. Anyways words are words, no more no less. With out action they are worthless vibrations of air. For this reason I stopped caring when all the little "Wop" kids called me a "dumb Pollock" in high school, but when one of those bastards attacked my friend physically, you best believe it was on.